My third cousin once removed, Noel, posted some pictures on Facebook today of her great-grandmother, the one that I knew is related to me because she is a Holdaway.
Noel was in my ward in North Orem, and we discovered our relationship thanks to one of Nancy's Hancock Hummer articles, the one about our Mayflower ancestors. David happened to mention that story in elder's quorum one day, and Noel's husband was like, "Hey that is my wife's family, too!" And then, a couple of days later, Noel posted some Mary Elizabeth pictures of the various Mary Elizabeth's in her family tree, the women who she grew to love through stories about them and so named her first daughter Mary Elizabeth. (And that young lady is now 16! It hardly seems possible!) And I saw them and was all "Those are MY Mary Elizabeths, too!"
Nancy and Noel are both tall and slender. Both generally have long brown hair, though I think Nancy's is slightly lighter than Noel's. When Nancy lived in Utah, too, they were taking turns being pregnant, and causing a lot of confusion as various neighbors would see the one they didn't know and say "You had your baby already?" or "I thought you already had your baby!" It was quite comical. Noel's family tree and mine have a complicated relationship, connecting on more than one line. So I suppose that Nancy and Noel, though fourth cousins, have a right to look alike, because they do share quite a bit of matching DNA.
It goes like this:
Noel -- Sister Ericksen -- Nathan H. .Johnson -- Murl H. Johnson -- Andrew Holdaway -- Lucinda Haws
Nancy -- Myrna Layton -- Arnold Conrad ====Arthur Conrad-----Mary E. H. Conrad -- Lucinda Haws
Perfect fourth cousins for Nancy and Noel. (and all my other kids and Noel, obviously, but only Nancy is Noel's doppelganger)
So, seeing Noel's pictures and being able to fill in the names got me interested, and I wanted to trace our families to see exactly how we are connected on this particular line--this is the line of our closest connection. I was not sure exactly how the generations fit together, because that cool Facebook App that I once could use to do that...is it even still there? I don't know. All kinds of techy things make me feel old and slightly dementia-affected! And I was also too lazy to walk downstairs and get my genealogy book, so I just looked up people on my laptop until I got all the information needed to complete the parallel generations.
Along the way, I found this: http://dianestokoe.com/Publications/holdaway/marymurljohnson.pdf
And that was a good read for tonight! Nancy now has a whole bunch of ancestor Benjamin stories to tell: the Chief of the clan in the Highlands of Scotland; the supporter of Bonnie Prince Charlie, the one who grew up speaking Welsh in Wales and then moved to the US, dying young. I had never heard those stories before! Since Patrick loves Wales, I told him the stories. And Josie, our Welsh speaker, will so enjoy hearing about them when she gets back home from her tour!
And then there was the story of my dad's two second cousins and their illicit love affair and all the heartbreak surrounding it. All of which my dad, growing up in Canada, was completely oblivious about!
Noel was in my ward in North Orem, and we discovered our relationship thanks to one of Nancy's Hancock Hummer articles, the one about our Mayflower ancestors. David happened to mention that story in elder's quorum one day, and Noel's husband was like, "Hey that is my wife's family, too!" And then, a couple of days later, Noel posted some Mary Elizabeth pictures of the various Mary Elizabeth's in her family tree, the women who she grew to love through stories about them and so named her first daughter Mary Elizabeth. (And that young lady is now 16! It hardly seems possible!) And I saw them and was all "Those are MY Mary Elizabeths, too!"
Nancy and Noel are both tall and slender. Both generally have long brown hair, though I think Nancy's is slightly lighter than Noel's. When Nancy lived in Utah, too, they were taking turns being pregnant, and causing a lot of confusion as various neighbors would see the one they didn't know and say "You had your baby already?" or "I thought you already had your baby!" It was quite comical. Noel's family tree and mine have a complicated relationship, connecting on more than one line. So I suppose that Nancy and Noel, though fourth cousins, have a right to look alike, because they do share quite a bit of matching DNA.
It goes like this:
Noel -- Sister Ericksen -- Nathan H. .Johnson -- Murl H. Johnson -- Andrew Holdaway -- Lucinda Haws
Nancy -- Myrna Layton -- Arnold Conrad ====Arthur Conrad-----Mary E. H. Conrad -- Lucinda Haws
Perfect fourth cousins for Nancy and Noel. (and all my other kids and Noel, obviously, but only Nancy is Noel's doppelganger)
So, seeing Noel's pictures and being able to fill in the names got me interested, and I wanted to trace our families to see exactly how we are connected on this particular line--this is the line of our closest connection. I was not sure exactly how the generations fit together, because that cool Facebook App that I once could use to do that...is it even still there? I don't know. All kinds of techy things make me feel old and slightly dementia-affected! And I was also too lazy to walk downstairs and get my genealogy book, so I just looked up people on my laptop until I got all the information needed to complete the parallel generations.
Along the way, I found this: http://dianestokoe.com/Publications/holdaway/marymurljohnson.pdf
And that was a good read for tonight! Nancy now has a whole bunch of ancestor Benjamin stories to tell: the Chief of the clan in the Highlands of Scotland; the supporter of Bonnie Prince Charlie, the one who grew up speaking Welsh in Wales and then moved to the US, dying young. I had never heard those stories before! Since Patrick loves Wales, I told him the stories. And Josie, our Welsh speaker, will so enjoy hearing about them when she gets back home from her tour!
And then there was the story of my dad's two second cousins and their illicit love affair and all the heartbreak surrounding it. All of which my dad, growing up in Canada, was completely oblivious about!

